Stacking Cannabis & Psilocybin || Jennifer Rotermund
Artem SmirnovStacking Cannabis & Psilocybin || Jennifer Rotermund
Jennifer Rotermund is a psychedelic integration coach. In this interview we discuss the healing properties of cannabis and how to stack it with psilocybin for additional benefits
Jennifer Rotermund is an Entheogenic Integration & Addiction Recovery Coach, a Cannabis Health & Wellness Coach and a Shamanic Practitioner/Sacred Ceremonialist. Jennifer operates a coaching business called Gaiaentheos https://gaiaentheos.com/
Cannabis is an amazing medicine. We have this incredible endocannabinoid system in our body that we’ve only known about in science for about 25 or 30 years.
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What do you do as a cannabis health and wellness coach?
Jennifer: There’s a lot to cannabis, It’s very nuanced. A lot of people, especially in a legal state like this, it’s easy to obtain cannabis and a lot of people just jump right in. They go to a dispensary, they just buy some product, try things and have the experience without knowing what they’re really taking.
It’s so easy to do and I’m glad I’m glad we at least have access. I’d rather that than not. But really,there’s a large variety of different cannabinoids, different Terpenes And each one of those in different combinations creates different medicine. And so with cannabis, we say start low and go slow.
I encourage people to be willing to give it some time to slowly move through different types, even all the ingestion methods available today. So there’s so much variety available with the medicine. And so it’s nuanced and it takes some time to figure out.
Can you microdose cannabis?
Jennifer: Yes, absolutely. I often hear from people. ‘Yeah, I tried some and I got way too high. I got way too paranoid and so I can’t do it. It’s just not my medicine.’
And when I hear that, I know that that means that they simply had too much THC for their body, for their system.
We have this incredible endocannabinoid system in our body that we’ve only known about for about 25 or 30 years. And that endocannabinoid system is a master controller and it actually we now know that it regulates just about every other system in the body.
Cannabis so potent. It’s so easy to take too much. And often people do. And so starting with really small doses is important. I work with people to start really low, start low and go slow as they say in the field. Somewhere between 2 to 5 milligrams.
I often start with CBD, which is incredibly healing, and it has most of the same properties as THC. Starting with like 2 to 5 milligrams of CBD and addressing whatever it is that someone has come to me to talk about whether it’s sleep or mood stabilization or something else. You can start really small and then slowly calibrate up from there and there’s no need to automatically go right into getting high. There’s just no need.
Can you stack psilocybin mushrooms with cannabis?
Jennifer: It absolutely is possible. Actually, the science has just come around to this and caught up to this. Our endocannabinoid system, which is the system that cannabis connects with, it’s a master regulator in our body. That endocannabinoid system actually beautifully harmonizes with our serotonin system. Serotonin is what is released when we take magic mushrooms or psilocybin and it’s the one neurotransmitter that works throughout our entire body.
Serotonin is at the basis of our grounded contentment and joy. It is often what is dysregulated when people are clinically depressed or anxious. Psilocybin has a healing realigning effect on the serotonin system.
Science beautifully and wonderfully has found that cannabis stacked or combined with psilocybin activates both the endocannabinoid system and the serotonin system in the body.
And the two of those already are working to harmonize with one another. And these medicines just actively support that.
It helps with mood stabilization. So depression can be supported for people and healed on some level. And just feeling really good often. And sleep comes right along with that. With that ability to to just feel calm and grounded and naturally really good during your day allows for better sleep.
There’s a lot of research being done around headache disorders and actually a lot of breakthroughs around the most serious headache disorders, migraines and cluster headaches are being directly impacted and in some cases completely eliminated for people.
I tend to work with people around the microdosing space so we’re looking at a 10th to a 20th of a journey dose.
We’re talking anywhere from 50 milligrams to maybe 500 milligrams or psilocybin. And in that 2 to 5 mg range for cannabis.
How do you approach integration with these medicines?
Jennifer: Integration is kind of a buzzword these days in the psychedelic field and for good reason. It’s really important taking this material or these insights or spiritual developments or clarity of mind, or whatever it is that people are receiving from these medicines. We want them to not just be a one time experience while you’re on the medicine. We want you to have this become part of who you are forever. and integration is that process.
Basically integration is making something whole. That’s one definition or interweaving something new that you’ve learned from new experience with knowledge you already have.
One way for integration is to reflect internally and put language to the experience you’re having, actually giving it language. And one really great way to do that is to circle around with other people in a safe and inclusive space and have the opportunity to share your experience. For some people it’s the first time they’re doing that. Putting language to the experience is that first critical step with integration, because once you’ve given it language, it becomes more real for you. And from there you can take actions.
Once you take an action, any action, even a small action, that is the thing that weaves this experience into your life long term. But you have to be able to language it first.
Can you talk about addiction, recovery and plant medicine?
Jennifer: These medicines have this way of cutting right through or moving beautifully, gracefully, right through all the layers of life. All the layers we build up: the calluses, the wounds that create these layers of traumas we’ve had that create layers around who we really are and coping mechanisms and then addictive behaviors.
And these medicines have this way of moving right through all of those layers, getting right to the true self and giving space for that true self.
They don’t do the work for you. There’s still work to be done in addiction recovery. They’re still the work, the work of recovery to do. However, these medicines are being found to make that work just a little easier.
By recovering your true self. And for some of us in the recovery field, that might be the first time in your life that you’re experiencing your true self, your divine self, that spark that you dream about knowing in yourself that you feel like is in there somewhere, but is maybe so covered up with all of the wounds and traumas of life that you have not felt that in a long time, or maybe not in a time that you remember.
With safe use of these medicines and with recovery support, people are finding that it just makes that healing path of recovery so much easier. So again, it doesn’t do the work for you, but it just makes the work you need to do easier.
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